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Disco left a comment after my post for the Miami game. He brings up some good points and I wanted to make sure that everyone saw it because it displays a more optimistic side of things for the Nuggets and may very well prove to be accurate when contrasted to my more pessimistic view of what may transpire for the rest of the season. It is definitely a good conversation starter and I think we could have some good discussion regarding these issues.
Here is Disco’s comment:
Assuming GK/AI/Melo/Camby are ok with losing anything is silly. These are some of the most competitive guys in the NBA we are talking about. Most people assume Karl is fine with losing because he made this comment… but what would you have him do? Call out Melo/AI in the press? Right…thats gonna make the team better. I think you have greatly misjudged the psychological makeup of this team. This team thinks they can beat any team on any night…which is why they get lazy. They do not think its ‘OK to lose this one’.
In addition, its silly to extrapolate a season worth of games from the first month ESPECIALLY with this team. I think we all agree this team has not hit its stride yet.
These are all good points, but I tend to disagree with what he said so here is an open letter to optimistic Nuggets fans everywhere addressing the comment left by Disco:
I can see and appreciate where you are coming from. It is possible that I am being too hard on the Nuggets, or further still, completely wrong. But it is obvious to me that this team is not making the obvious changes that are necessary to succeed consistently on the court. That is a mental issue that this team has. You are right that they are not in the locker room before a game saying to one another, “We can afford to lose tonight.” It is a more subtle subconscious process that is allowed to fester by Karl himself using the excuse of injuries or Camby using the excuse of playing five back to back sets of games to rationalize poor performances.
I wrote that I did not want to hear one player or coach use injuries, or anything else, as an excuse for why they lose because it fosters that defeatist mindset. As soon as someone allows themselves to think that they lost because of injuries, it becomes an acceptable reason for the team as a whole to underperform. The Nuggets, specifically Karl, let that happen.
As far as their competitiveness, I agree that Camby and especially Iverson are competitive. Melo is competitive, but he is no where near the level of Iverson. I actually think Melo is a frontrunner where he is great when they are scoring a lot of points and things are going his way, but when things start to go bad, he gets frustrated and if that frustration festers for too long he becomes a detriment to the team. His shot selection becomes atrocious and he starts pouting.
Karl is much more difficult to read. I know he was a very passionate player and coach when he was younger, but we do not see that much anymore. I wrote a couple of days ago that he is clearly trying not to grate on his players as he used to. He definitely makes a point of not calling his guys out in the papers, but none of us have any idea what he says to them behind closed doors. He may be doing all he can, but I do not get the sense from him that every loss just eats him up inside.
Ultimately with this team the problem is not having enough competitors who do not want to lose, but how that competitiveness manifests itself when the other team makes a run and how they react when they are not playing well. I think Iverson is by far the most competitive player on the team. I believe every loss hurts him and more than anything he wants to win a championship. He gives it his all every night and will never stop fighting, but he is only one guy.
I have also seen a downside of that super competitive nature that Iverson possesses in how it impacts the way he plays. We all know that this team is at its best when they are playing some semblance of defense, running the floor and moving without the ball on offense. When Iverson senses things are going bad and that hatred of losing boils to the surface, he becomes even more of a one on one player. Ultimately, he relies on himself to carry the team out of it and usually that only exacerbates the issues on offense.
When a game starts slipping away I want to see AI, Camby and Melo call everyone together and get on the same page. Demand that everyone shares the ball and moves on offense. Demand that they all start gritting it out on defense. Remember together that they play their best when they play as a team and not as individuals.
Instead, when things start to go bad we see Melo jacking up more and more contested jumpers and AI over dribbling. The result of which is things seem to go downhill even more quickly. At this point that attitude I wrote about comes in where the excuses they use to dismiss poor play impact their acceptance of what is happening on the court. Again, I am not saying it is a purposeful decision, but a reason to let the flood of momentum overwhelm them. Their effort becomes hollow.
The best example of this was the game against the Clippers in Los Angeles. On several occasions they were only down four in the second half, but they never gave me the slightest inkling of belief that they would get any closer. After the game I wrote that it was the most insurmountable small third quarter lead I had ever seen.
That game happened to be the second half of a back to back and they were playing without Nene, Chucky Atkins, Anthony Carter and Steven Hunter. To top it off Linas Kleiza was injured in the second half as well. Mentally they completely mailed in the second half. It was pathetic. Is it a coincidence that those excuses they site so readily were present in that game? I do not think so. Somewhere in their minds they decided that with all the obstacles they were facing that game was one that they could let go of.
Instead of pulling together and fighting back when things get tight, they let a 17 point lead against the Lakers turn into a 28 point blowout, a nine point lead against an undermanned Clipper team turn into an inexplicable 11 point loss. They have had one game all year where things were not going their way and yet they fought back to win against a decent team and that was the game in Indiana where we know Karl gave them a good thrashing at halftime. They have come back to win games against Seattle and twice against Minnesota, but those were against the two worst teams in the league. I do not think that is much to get excited about, but to be fair it does merit mentioning.
Based on what I have seen, I have to question this team’s mindset and attitude heading into games. I have to wonder why they allow themselves to play four horrible games in a row without showing the slightest interest in changing the things that they know they need to do better in order to win. The very fact that they make excuses about injuries and schedules when those things do not prevent them from moving without the ball or taking good shots or rallying their teammates to change how they are playing shows where there mind is. How else can you explain what we have seen the first month of the season? This is a veteran team that should not have to keep learning the same lessons over and over again.
You bring up another good point that has bugged me for the past three years. They have a very arrogant attitude about themselves. They do get lazy against poor teams and they lose important games because of it. I do not believe the reason is because they know that they can beat anyone at anytime. I believe it is because they think they are good enough to just show up and win. That is a ridiculous attitude to have for a team that has not accomplished anything together.
Concerning the projected record I put together, I was merely working with what they have done this season and their performance in previous seasons to develop what kind of pace they were on. I am not saying it is etched in stone that they will be 50-32. I think I used sound arguments for how I came up with that number. Can they win 55 games? Sure, but it seems unlikely. Have they hit their stride yet? You are correct in saying they have not. One of the points I have tried to drive home though is that the schedule gets much more difficult. Look at what they have in store for them in March. They will have to play much better than they have to this point just to win seven or eight games that month.
I do have very strong reservations about this team. I may be wrong and I may be misreading their mindset, but I do not know how else to interpret the indifference, inconsistency and lack of urgency I see from them. I hope I am wrong and they can begin playing consistently great basketball. They definitely have the ability to do so.
It really makes me worry that they know they need home court advantage and a favorable playoff matchup to have a good chance to advance in the playoffs, but their play has not reflected that belief. November was a month to prove that they were a team to be taken seriously and get a lead on many of their competitors and they failed to do that.
I would like to thank Disco for posting his comment as well as all of you who take the time to share you thoughts. I truly appreciate all of you who chose to read this blog.
I think this can be a good starting point for more discussion so please leave your thoughts below. Am I completely wrong? Do we need to give the Nuggets more time? I am looking forward to what everyone thinks about the state of the Nuggets at this point in the season.
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